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There’s a lot of conspiracy theories out there about YouTube. Everything from how the CEO keeps her job to why YouTube suppresses smaller channels to what you have to do to be picked up by the algorithm.
Today’s episode is a bit more fun where we kick back and get into some of the conspiracy theories about YouTube that you all submitted to us. We answer some of them, but others are just so far out there, sheesh, we don’t really know what to say. haha This is a fun one!
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2:16: Team catchup
7:28: Conspiracy theory #1
8:53: Conspiracy theory #2
12:06: Conspiracy theory #3
14:54: Conspiracy theory #4
20:30: Conspiracy theory #5
22:10: Conspiracy theory #6
27:46: Conspiracy theory #7
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to help you here’s tim lennon and delena
hello creators how are you guys it’s
great to hang out with you again for a
just for fun video creators podcast
episode i feel like sometimes we’re all
like giving you information trying to
help you out move forward with the
roadblocks you’re facing on your youtube
channel helping you grow your businesses
and that is all good and we will
certainly do that here in this episode
but
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i went to twitter into our community tab
and i just asked the people who follow
me there
what are the conspiracy theories that
you’ve heard about youtube that you
would love to have answered
and i told them actually let me just
read it to you because this is i i have
not told lena and delena here with the
actual tweet said i just kind of told
him what the theme was i said
what quote what are some of the
conspiracy theories you hear about
youtube i’d love to spring some of them
on lennon and elena and our podcast
later today and see how they react
little angel emoji
so
some of these are just off the wall i
have not heard of some of these before
and some of them are totally legitimate
questions that i think we should address
too so it’ll be a little bit of fun here
a little bit of like okay good that
actually helps me with my youtube
channel
and talking about
view velocity talking about posting
velocity and how many days youtube takes
to do this and that and smaller channels
versus bigger channels and
it’ll be a good conversation for sure so
i’m excited to dive into that here with
you guys today if you haven’t met lennon
and elena yet they are two strategists
here on our team here at video creators
they work with our clients work with
creators just helping them
blast through their road blocks so i
need a different word than roblox
but anyway well i liked your i liked
your emphasis there that was good
roadblocks it’s like a
boom no airbags or anything just
crashing through it so i don’t know
i should let you guys talk here before
this gets any worse uh
how are you guys doing what’s going on
at the at the delana hunt hut and the
london bone abode i feel like it’s
become a thing now so i’m gonna update
you guys on what i’m drinking from
starbucks now and you have to try
their brown sugar oat milk latte no it’s
not a latte
not sponsored
but starbucks sponsor us um
and i’ll do a whole starbucks haul on on
this podcast can people do hauls on
podcasts that’d be funny i don’t know
you know my very first attempt at coffee
was a starbucks latte yeah it did not go
well for me
yeah that’s that’s just like jumping off
the deep end tim you’re gonna
ease into it a little bit
it just tasted like burnt water to me
exactly that’s what i’m saying
um
okay but yeah brown sugar oat milk if
you haven’t tried it i don’t know if
it’s a seasonal thing or not but
i can’t i’ve been buying it like every
day guys it’s kind of expensive but so
you’re getting out of the house every
day that’s right
yeah that’s more than i could say
thank you
how are you doing madden good
my we’re talking about conspiracy
theories and um
it made me
think of um this
show that we’ve gotten into
called only murders in the building have
you guys heard about this at all so it’s
it sounds like steve martin
steve martin martin short and uh selena
gomez
and the idea is that they’re um
they are really into murder mystery
podcasts and there’s a murder that
happens in their building and so they’re
trying to start their own murder mystery
podcast around
their sleuthing of this thing
and it’s super good it’s super addictive
of course like you know it’s just cool
to see steve martin and martin short
doing something like
where they’re at now in their age
bracket that’s relevant and like i don’t
know i’m loving it so that’s what we’ve
been doing binge watching that show so
if you want to check it out i would
highly recommend it i think it’s on hulu
and they release new ones every tuesday
night so
um have a new one coming up here
well um my first speaking attempt since
uh kovid went well it was fun to be
around people again i think my favorite
part though is just meeting with people
talking to them one on one
um
and
one of the things that fincon does
finance personal finance cons it’s a
conference for
finance personal finance bloggers and
influencers
and they expect all their speakers to do
a mentorship with one of the one of the
participants there and this year i got
the same person that i worked with last
time actually which is great so we get
to do like a little follow-up catch-up
and and stuff and help them help this uh
girl she has a budgeting blog and
youtube channel
and it’s just fun to hear the stories of
like all the growth and success she’s
doing the she’s making more money and
doing better now than she’s ever done in
her life her goal was to
um hit substantially less money than
this
in a longer amount of time and it’s been
quicker and she’s grown faster and
so i can’t really take credit for that i
mean i gave i met with her for like an
hour you know so
um take the credit she’s like take it
out
she did all the work you know we had a
we had a meeting right when she was
quitting her other job because they had
a baby on the way and she was so she was
leaving that job and had to turn this
into to replace that income and she’s
more
than replaced it now so it’s just been
it’s just been fun to see those those
follow-up stories so
yeah
that was exciting yeah
you guys ready for this
this is gonna be fun okay
so i asked for the conspiracy theories
and
um this this is what i heard some of
them we can answer some of them we
probably can’t
but um
do you want to create more spirit
conspiracy theories we could do that
that’s right yeah can i
weave myself somehow into these
conspiracy theories i think that would
be exciting go for it
yeah okay let’s let’s pick some of our
own here so i’m just going through them
in no particular order just the order
they came in on twitter and the
community tab on youtube
first one is from cz’s world
on twitter
they no longer have slash never hired
the 1000 quote human reviewers in 2017.
nobody in the industry knows one of
these reviewers who one of them are or
what their process looks like i’m like
oh you’re right actually i’ve never met
10 000 people either so maybe they don’t
have any human reviewers
i don’t know but i can see how that
could be as theory because whenever you
reach out for a human review it takes a
really long time if you get one
so i can see
where this is coming from
well
to that point though
if there’s only ten thousand how many
vet videos go up every day uh 500
minutes or 500 hours a minute so like
years yeah so i mean 10 000 in in the
scheme of like how much content is being
uploaded is
probably minuscule those poor people
they’re not they’re not reviewing every
video it’s
just you still you would think like
you would think that there’d be a lot of
complaints um
in in that with that kind of content
going up i don’t know maybe not but
that’s fascinating that’s a that’s a
good one i’m like
you’re gonna get sucked into these
aren’t you oh they’ll be like your next
consultation you’ll be like did you know
i mean i’m a big like
sasquatch proponent and stuff like that
i love that kind of stuff so this is
you’re right in my wheelhouse right now
tim all right cool well the next one
is from josh striker on twitter uh i
gotta get some context because not
everyone might not know what’s going on
right now with uh twitch and youtube you
guys hear the kind of drama around
twitch with a lot of the creators there
are going on strike
and taking a week off from streaming
because of this issue
where someone will um when they send at
the end of their stream they send all
their audience to go crash another
streamers and usually it’s positive like
everyone go there we’re gonna and then
like instantly this little streamer’s
got like 18 000 people all watching and
it like makes their life makes their
world makes their day they’re eating
like whatever right um and they so it’s
usually a an affirming thing but some of
them turning it for the opposite which
is they send their after they send their
whole stream all their audience over to
someone else to just totally crash it
and
flame them and
just over
and the people who they’re legitimately
trying to have fun now just can’t and
the streamer just getting all this hate
and everything so twitch is having a
hard time
moderating it to work to only be
positive and not negative so
here’s the uh here’s the conspiracy
theory from josh is that youtube planted
those bots into twitch
that doesn’t sound like a very good
strategy
can i just play like pro conspiracists
on
all of these so i want to like
i want to just be the devil’s advocate
toward the conspiracy for all these and
and try to speak on its behalf so
all right i mean
you know
it would make a lot of sense it would
make a lot of sense because you know
youtube which has been on the definition
lately yeah they’re probably
at some point we’re feeling a little bit
intimidated by them and i know there
were some issues with like some big
youtubers leaving youtube right to go to
twitch as like uh exclusively right
wasn’t there i feel like i heard some
like phil defranco talking about some of
that stuff where there’s some deals with
those coming up
yeah okay yeah there’s some bitterness
happening here so but overall from what
i read like last week
streaming on youtube is growing
and more and more creators are favoring
youtube over twitch for their gaming for
their streaming and stuff so do you
think this has something to do with it
uh or is this such a small
correlation but i do but from what i
read it was like 18 000
uh twitch streamers are doing the strike
for one week wow so it’s not an
insignificant number of people yeah you
know that’s that’s
cool though that they’re so they’re
going on strike to say don’t do this is
that what you’re is that what you’re
getting at right they’re like we need
this to only be a positive thing not a
negative thing so that’s yeah that’s
cool i mean either way
if if that’s if youtube planted those
things then
and now we’re seeing the haters or like
the the people like band together then
youtube’s probably a little bit ticked
because they’re like this didn’t work
how we wanted it to these people are
banding together
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well this next one is a doozy i read it
and i was like i don’t even know how to
respond to this one i just hearted it
favorite and just called it good
also from cz’s world on twitter here’s
one from an anonymous source the idea
that susan wojcicki the ceo of youtube
has been able to keep her job so long
and through so many disasters because
she has dirt on sergi
uh brynn who is the the founder ceo of
google which she learned from her sister
who divorced him in 2015.
i know that’s what i’m saying i don’t
know how to respond like we should call
this i don’t know
reacting to conspiracy theories and
youtube drama
because
wow wow that’s
but but that’s accurate no i don’t know
i mean there’s nothing like the marriage
the marriage situation that that is uh
that’s an accurate thing i don’t i don’t
know i mean probably ver you could
probably do a quick google search and
find out
but um i know susan was like what the
seventh employee of google or something
like that uh we’re already bigger than
seven employees look at that we’re on
our way to become the next google
yeah because it was her garage that
youtube or google started in like they
rented her garage
and
and they were eating her food and she
had she was going to kick them out as
renters because they were just eating
all her food and not paying for it and
throwing off her meal plans and
everything uh my kids yeah
so but eventually they hired her
and
but i didn’t know that sergey’s
um ex-wife was susan’s
sister okay if she was if she was the
seventh employee of google
long of a standing with them that way
more explains why she’s been able to
hold her position
than
some
black male she has yeah and i’ve heard
there’s very few people who have the
access and right should just walk in on
him
without making a meeting like just just
show up unannounced to his office and
that be acceptable
and she’s one of those very very few
people who can do that so it sounds like
there’s a relationship there of respect
and trust
and it’s just a personal one over the
years because she was there in the
beginning before google was anything
really so wow that seems more plausible
to me
but
no not near stuff there’s this you know
all
right what’s that thing i have to tell
my dad like
usually the it’s the less interesting
stories that are true
i know yeah it is
here’s a here’s one from colin michael
on twitter he says
a common conspiracy theory he hears and
i mean i think it’s interesting he’s
calling this a conspiracy theory i want
to hear what you guys
think if this is true youtube susp
suppresses small creators is that a
conspiracy theory or is that true or
what’s going on there i think youtube
is more prone like the reason that we
see
more big creators get surfaced is
because
that content is clear to the algorithm
that people respond well to that content
um but i know that youtube actually is
heavily focused on helping small
creators grow that that’s a big part i
mean that was their whole mission from
the get-go you know was to help
anybody you know be able to grow in this
way so
i think that it takes smaller creators
to kind of
learn and there’s a large
the learning curve keeps getting bigger
yeah
there’s so many skills you need to make
it work
with production storytelling audio
camera equipment editing
script writing planning type graphic
design with thumbnails copywriting with
titles i mean it’s a pretty dizzying
list that you’ve got to be really good
at yeah
i can answer my thoughts yes i can
answer my thoughts with an illustration
okay
so wait i don’t feel like i wrapped up
my thought okay so sorry base basically
the the since the learning curve keeps
getting bigger it’s not that youtube is
necessarily suppressing the content but
just that
the content that they are producing
when they’re beginning when they’re
small is not at the same level of
content that performs well on youtube
that’s what i was trying to say agreed
well i’m gonna i’m gonna say that
preface it by saying that there’s a
there’s a missing element here which is
most of the time
when a creator grows
we don’t see that growth phase
right so for instance we did a
i did a consult with a
channel called tasting history which i
think should be getting close to a
million subs but at the time
that we did the call
he was working on his stuff i think he
had like 8 000 subscribers and so we
were talking and i just said hey you
know something’s gonna happen you’re
doing a lot of things incredibly well
this is really great i just think you
need to kind of hang out and he was
feeling very frustrated had a lot of
these types of
comments like am i being suppressed
what’s happening here etc so i said well
i want you to email me when something
happens because i i think it’s going to
and so i went uh out of the office for
the weekend got back he had emailed me
on saturday and this was monday and he
said hey i just want to let you know
that i’m over 10 000 subscribers so you
picked up 2 000 subscribers
um and then i emailed him back i was
like oh that’s great and he’s like oh
that was uh saturday he’s like as of
today i’m over 20 000.
um and then he emailed me like two days
later he was over 50 000 subscribers
so the point here being that when
something picks up if the channel is
doing really well to delana’s point
where the content is good
and
it is set up for the channel to grow it
will likely grow quickly and so we don’t
see a lot of that middle ground we only
see sort of what most would consider
like small or big channels and i think
that that kind of has a lot to do with
it because you know in that time frame
there’s only going to be a few
you know
10 000 people 20 000 30 000 people that
would see it at a level where it’s like
oh okay
this is small and i’m seeing the growth
it’s those early adopters and so i just
don’t think we can make that call
with a with a clear picture based on
just how things seem to work that’s my
thought before we move on to the next
one i just wanted to point out did a
little research here and
susan’s sister anne did indeed marry
sergey brin co-founder of google
and uh
yeah and well the thing i thought the
reason i’m sharing this is that they had
a super secret ceremony in the bahamas
in 2007 and it was so secret that they
that none of the guests were told the
location of the wedding they were
instead all just flown to the bahamas on
a private jet
and they just showed up
and then they were taken by boat to a
sand bar where the ceremony was held and
uh they wore
white and black swimsuits for their
ceremony that brought it it’s a sand bar
do they just like serve cups of sand
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yeah we’re rubbing off i don’t think
your starbucks will rub off onto me
though i think that one’s pretty uh
one’s pretty well set just give it time
yeah i’ve given it about the three five
years so far
the jean jackets did too that’s true
yeah i got it right here i just didn’t
put it on because i didn’t feel enough
pressure since lennon you don’t have
yours on
i know i can’t i gotta find it all right
this one is from
bret bristow on twitter i think we can
do this one pretty quickly i was talking
with someone that just started youtube
and they heard you had to post a daily
video for a hundred days to be picked up
by the algorithm
that’s accurate that’s 100 accurate
i think this goes really well with the
previous one which is like is it that
you publish a hundred video like you
published
a hundred videos in a hundred days or is
it that you learned your some new skills
really fast and your content actually
got better you learned to find your
voice you learned how to better talk to
your audience you got better production
skills you know all that stuff happens
because you’re just getting your reps in
for yeah that’d be a really great way to
kind of expedite the learning process
for sure
which can help you grow faster if you
shorten the learning curve but i don’t
think it’s it is
is absolutely not necessary to have to
go to that length to yeah grow the
skills that you need and get traction
good
i did hear that that’s why these 10 000
workers aren’t actually
like being heard from is
they’re counting individual people’s
videos and as soon as you fall off if
you miss a day in your daily 100
practice you go back to zero my friend
you are stricken from the list
so these 10 000 workers are busy
i think we need to add a new segment to
our podcast for london
these are great
conspiracies with lenin that’s right
yeah
all right uh this one’s from the
basement on twitter did you know twitter
has a basement apparently this came from
the basement
the twitter box the conspiracies in the
basement
i mean yeah
elsa’s in twitter’s basement uh he says
they say upload time doesn’t matter
but view velocity seems to matter so
which is it and he was a laughing emoji
so i think he knows he’s being facetious
um upload time doesn’t matter view
velocity anyone just take a quick crack
at that one exactly
like when you when you upload or that’s
what i took it as yeah time of day okay
not how long it takes to upload you see
faster internet for that buddy
you do youtube judges you based on how
fast your video uploads i heard that
i heard that’s true
i what’s the longest you guys have ever
spent uploading a
video oh
i’ll go first it was two and a half days
i was trapped
and this was a few and this was back
like when
when it was it might have been more true
than that i don’t know but it was like
if you miss us an upload
like you’re you your channel’s just
crashed i think it was back in like
late 2000s or
something like that
and so
we were traveling and
back then high-speed internet wasn’t as
high-speed as it was today and i
remember we were staying at a friend’s
house and there they just had dial up
and it was really slow and so i paid the
money to do a hot spot on my phone and
use the 3g connection to upload this
video file that was like 2gig
and it kept disconnecting but thankfully
youtube would like resume the upload and
not start all over so as we were there i
just like every few hours would go back
down and just try to reconnect through
my phone and get that upload going again
and
i totally missed the deadline for it
anyway but
i remember that was a bad experience
probably it probably tanked because it
took so long
i did
upload time it does matter
how about viewfinder
guys
the faster it uploads the i remember
when processing on youtube’s end would
take a while now it’s like yeah ready
when it’s done you know yep
with view velocity i want to make sure
i’m understanding this right
the way that somebody thinks of view
velocity they’re talking about how many
views you get right away like right out
of the gate yeah correct yeah the theory
is that
if you get the more views you get in the
fr and this is does some people say 24
hours some people say 48 hours but the
more views you get and the initial once
the video is initially published the
better that video will perform long term
so the entire success of the video rests
on how it performs in the first 24 to 48
hours
right
yeah which is um that’s totally a
conspiracy
that uh
i’d love to stand behind
but like here’s the problem with good
conscience i can’t
there’s so many videos have been on
youtube for a long time that suddenly
pop and do really well you know i’ve had
that happen many times in different
situations
uh you go back and update the title
thumbnail some of your old content and
it can pop it can not pop like a balloon
but it can start performing better right
i’m sorry for all these you guys i’m
surprised
that’s the crazy thing though tim is i
heard that
if your shorts don’t do that well
that’s the next thing that youtube’s
gonna actually have it pop like a
balloon and just disappear
shorts
my youtube shorts have cargo shorts on
them
this reminds me of whenever lennon did
the april fool’s
telling feet telling everyone that we
found that if you actually wear shorts
in your youtube shorts
then they perform better
that’s science that’s just true yeah
um i hope you guys are getting what they
came here for
i love giving the example of
of uh dr anthony yoon for stuff like
this because
whenever i worked with him big thing is
that we were wanting to take his channel
to the next level like he had grown to
close quarter million when he started
yeah quarter million for six years
yeah and
then we wanted to take it to the next
level so he did a reaction video for the
first time
and
um
he it was like plastic surgeon reacting
to botch you guys should definitely look
it up because it’s fun video and
he
within the first i want to say like five
days that that video was up it tanked
he actually sent me an email and he was
like it’s totally tanking should we do
something and i was like just give it
time just give it time we’re doing we’re
trying something totally new you know
and sometimes when you try something
totally new and you already have an
existing audience youtube doesn’t know
what to do with it it has to find the
right way because the viewers don’t know
what to do with it right exactly and so
then by the end of the next week i
believe it had it was like two weeks in
and it had over
or close to two million views on it so
and now his channel was at like two and
a half million subscribers or something
and we’re not working with him anymore
because he’s just coasting now yeah he’s
doing awesome did a good job with that
one delano
thank you all right last one here uh
this one is from our friend dan hines
and he says hi dan
if someone clicks
a link on facebook to watch a video on
youtube
it messes up the algorithm on youtube so
if i was going to summarize that
i don’t see why that wouldn’t be true
honestly yeah
i think people have no idea if we’re
lying or
you know
they can’t see our faces they’re like
what i don’t know if you’re serious or
not i’m kidding guys i’m kidding
but are you
uh yeah yeah yeah yeah just make a [ __ ]
yeah youtube doesn’t care if the traffic
source is for a video you know so like
if it’s from facebook or whatever now
getting someone to click on it on
facebook is another thing
but
the traffic sources facebook’s gonna be
more upset about having a youtube video
in there than than the other way around
absolutely i will say what it can
what it can mess up in your metrics is
things like your audience retention
graph that will look different because
it’ll all that kind of gets lumped
together
um so
facebook users
generally tend to watch not as long on
youtube they’re coming from facebook
um and so
it can mess with your audience retention
graph and kind of give you an unclear
look at that but in terms of how
it actually performs within youtube
youtube is measuring how it performs
from the traffic source not just how the
video performs as a whole no matter
where the viewer came from so youtube is
measuring
okay if i show this on uh a user’s home
page do they respond to the content
there no okay if i show it on suggested
videos and it’s doing all this at the
same time does
do they respond there and it’s kind of
like tracking all of these things to
find where the video belongs
right
i did want to bring up though that you
know we’ve been talking about this idea
some of
like a viewer what is the power of a
viewer like a tick tock viewer is worth
you know like what is it like four to
seven tick tock viewers is worth like
one youtube subscriber 25 tick tock
subscribers
is worth one youtube subscriber and what
uh what we hear is that if mark
zuckerberg actually watches your youtube
video on facebook you will instantly get
a million subscribers just
instantaneously so okay that’s the one
thing about that
yeah so our networking events try to
shake that guy’s hand
i
don’t know if he shakes hands i don’t
know probably not anymore that’s the
awkward part of these events is it like
most people i don’t seem to shake hands
they tend to do the fist bump or wave no
so
like like the wave like you see at a
baseball game totally yep the wave
just just by themselves though no one
else around them just their arms go up
and down you think they’re worshiping
you
why are you putting both arms up dude oh
my goodness where
i really hope you guys got what you came
here for
thanks for having me
i hope you got a good laugh
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little bit see how this goes
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yeah exactly i know
even brian our editor is like you guys
just stop
hi brian
every week we want to give you just some
really practical advice something you
can use right now in your youtube
channel to see better results lennon’s
got this week’s power tip for us so we
recently heard chris doe from the future
talk about
which is a great channel for creators
especially graphic design type people
talk about their experimentation with
shorts and one of the things that
they’re doing
is instead of feeling like they have to
go and make a whole bunch of new content
for shorts they’re literally going and
starting with their most popular videos
looking for
peaks in their audience retention so
trying to find moments in their audience
retention graph where people are going
back and re-watching those sections and
using those as things that they can cut
down and create shorts content from so
we think this is a great opportunity to
experiment without having to just go out
and reinvent the wheel
we would also suggest that you know with
these videos can you cut the value of
the video down to
this sick just under 60 second mark
and then pitch that if they want to go
deeper with the video uh to go and and
join you on the channel what we’re not
saying here for what it’s worth is
don’t give them a teaser and say like
hey but if you want to see the answer to
this question go over here we’re not
saying that give the full value inside
the short and then say if you want to go
more in depth in this topic you can
check it out here
but this is a good opportunity for you
guys to just experiment without having
to go and make a whole bunch of new
content great thanks lennon we’ve got
some amazing new episodes coming up for
you soon we got next week we’ve got an
interview with jelly smack their
vp there who’s going to talk with us
about how can we better optimize
our content for
for different platforms for how to take
our youtube video optimize it for
facebook first tick tick tock i’m sorry
i can’t laugh the other let in the liner
making me laugh they’re doing stuff
uh
and then the week after that we’re going
to be
talking with someone from patreon about
how to best set up patreon and introduce
it to your audience in a way that makes
it really receptive and types of perks
and levels and i have some thoughts on
there about patreon versus
youtube
memberships as well and we will dive all
into that stuff and more in the next
couple weeks so
thanks for following along kevin left us
to review an apple podcast recently we’d
love to read it thanks there’s another
call to action for you
and we will catch up with you again
next week for another video creators
podcast episode thanks guys bye
